Thursday, November 21, 2013

Doin The Things That He Wants To---The Frank Zappa Comments Post


8 comments:

Mr Bigpants Cock (of the) Walk said...

the lou reed post has been moved to a previous month until enough time/space has passed for it to be removed from the current scroll.

Rich said...

First, I love Frank's guitar here.

So, I might as well kick this off...

I feel that Playground Psychotics is actually maybe the most essential of the Flo & Eddie material in that it provides a context for what the hell Frank was trying to achieve. Certainly much more than let's say 200 Motels.

Rich said...

DID YOU KNOW: That Chuck wrote My War stemming from his feelings of betrayal at the hands of Greg? Kinda changes everything then, doesn't it?

Mr Bigpants Cock (of the) Walk said...

That's unbelievable and also makes such perfect sense. and it kinda adds tons of depth and substance to the whole album really.

Mr Bigpants Cock (of the) Walk said...

So Cant Decide/Beat My Head are apparently Ginns unconscious acknowledements of existing with the demon within, almost trying to justify his existence. followed by Chucks I Love You, walking a bit in Ginns shoes, concluding, fuck off, yr essentially a serial killer. Side two of course is one long meditation on dealing with the GregGinns in the world while simultaneously wrestling with the GregGinn that exists within us all.

Rich said...

Shit, I think you cracked it.

Now, the question is will be post modern and carry it into the next album, Greg becoming more isolated all wound up on black coffee, jerking off obsessively cuz he can't slip it in, while a sub-dialouge between Chuck and Henry forms, each acknowledging they are trapped in/behind the Bars, and then Greg trying to confuse and obliterate by proclaiming that they arent evil, but their minds are also not free, because no matter how fried he is, he's the one who pulls the strings.

Okay, yours is serious and mine is silly...

But seriously...do you think Greg knew? Did Henry? Did Chuck keep that one for himself? Did Spot or Carducci know? I can't imagine Greg going along with some sort of meta/inter dialogue, especially if he's one of them. Or, is his trump card being, I'll absorb your song, play it night after night, name the FUCKIN WHOLE ALBUM after it, and oh, play all the bass, you know, the instrument you used to play.

Rich said...

In Zappa news, the most abrupt shift in a body of work full of abrupt shifts (so far, of course) is going from The Grand Wazoo into Overnite Sensation.

Mr Bigpants Cock (of the) Walk said...

Ha! Im partially kidding as well. Black Flag was never exactly the Thomas Pynchon of the music world; I dont care how many abe lincoln quotes hank memorizes... I can't imagine any of them really "knowing"; well maybe Carducci knew.

overnitesensation OH YES! FI NA LLY!! Ive been desperatley waiting for you to get to that one. Since my little "YAWYI" satori this summer I have become obsessed with those next four albums (OS, A, R&E, OSFA). I know they are considered the high watermark by most but for the first time I get it! and see it for much more than some dubious achievement of putting difficult notes together that have never been put together before. Actually, honestly and for the very first time I have become incredibly grateful to/for Frank Zappa for opening huge spaces of perception that I can apply to comprehending all music. Oddly I have never perceived anything like this with his music before---and certainly never thought such an experience would occur through him even eight months ago.. and the beautiful thing is Im just getting peaks of these "huge spaces of percetion" that are to come, just walking past the front door into the foyer. so who knows, maybe I can actually articulate some of this in a few months, haha. for now its a lot of lying on the ground looking up with my mouth gaping open, hahaha. it took a long long fucking time with this guy, wakawakajawaka!!!

and by the way you are very right about burnt weeny sandwich being a labor of love, I totally agree with that!!